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Dial 1911 for Help
16th October 2009, 11:52
The New Hampshire Department of Safety has ordered law enforcement agencies to end the practice of running background checks before returning confiscated firearms to their owners.

In a memo sent on Sept. 28, New Hampshire Department of Safety Assistant Commissioner Earl Sweeney reminded law enforcement officials throughout the state that the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, known as NICS, can be used only by federally licensed gun manufacturers, importers and dealers. If the NICS is being used by police or court officers to run background checks before returning confiscated guns, Sweeney wrote, they should stop.

"Conducting NICS checks prior to returning confiscated firearms technically constitutes misuse of NICS and exceeds the authority granted to the Department of Safety by the New Hampshire Legislature," he wrote.

The order is in response to a complaint filed with the New Hampshire Department of Safety by Concord attorney Evan F. Nappen.

Nappen, who specializes in New Hampshire weapons law, contacted the state in April after the Manchester Police Department ran an NICS check on one of his clients. Nappen said he discovered soon after that background checks were also being run at some of New Hampshire's superior courts.

He warned the state that under the Code of Federal Rules enforced by the U.S. Justice Department, these actions could result in a $10,000 fine for each violation and the state could potentially lose access to the use NICS system.

Nappen said he was happy with Sweeney's response. Ending these checks means gun owners are no longer subjected to improper checks and, at the same time, eases the case load of the state's NICS system, he said.

"To the credit of Earl Sweeney, he read, responded and took action on what I had to say. I've got to give him a lot of credit," said Nappen.

DoubleTap45
16th October 2009, 13:45
IF they have completed an investigation, found NO wrongdoing and THE hand on to a gun to fish for a case they ARE violating the guy's Civil Rights. Period. :dead_hors

-Ray

Old Fashioned
16th October 2009, 15:21
That is most interesting. I didn't know that NICS was for the exclusive use of federally licensed gun manufacturers, importers, and dealers. I wonder how much other misuse has been going on undetected? IF THIS IS TRUE, then the argument by the gun grabbers that individuals selling a firearm to another individual at a gun show do not do a NICS is a moot argument isn't it? :D :D :D

DoubleTap45
16th October 2009, 20:27
ALL gun laws and anti-gun policies are at least redundant in addition to being demented.

-Ray

Dial 1911 for Help
16th October 2009, 20:47
That is most interesting. I didn't know that NICS was for the exclusive use of federally licensed gun manufacturers, importers, and dealers. I wonder how much other misuse has been going on undetected? IF THIS IS TRUE, then the argument by the gun grabbers that individuals selling a firearm to another individual at a gun show do not do a NICS is a moot argument isn't it? :D :D :D
Excellent point. They'd probably just say that they wanted the private sales to go through the hands of an FFL, like a "private" interstate sale does now, so there's no conflict.

< / liberal mode >

daveohno
3rd December 2009, 00:07
This is why the government shouldn't get their hands on your property in the first place, we do our best to make sure you never get it back. Let's see now, jump through this hoop, fill out this form, make this call, pay this fine.............

Dial 1911 for Help
3rd December 2009, 00:13
Ooh, you know, this thread has application to the one I just posted about police running serials on firearms found during traffic stops. If NH isn't allowed to do it, I don't see how AK (the state specifically referred to in the other article) or any other state can get away with doing it.

Aguila Blanca
7th December 2009, 00:43
Ooh, you know, this thread has application to the one I just posted about police running serials on firearms found during traffic stops. If NH isn't allowed to do it, I don't see how AK (the state specifically referred to in the other article) or any other state can get away with doing it.
Different check. NICS is a background check on the individual. Running the serial number on a firearm is a check to see if that firearm has been reported stolen. The practice is still of questionable constitutionality if there's no reasonable suspicion of a crime, but it doesn't use the NICS system so it's out of context in regard to the original post.

Dial 1911 for Help
7th December 2009, 01:16
Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarification, AB.

DoubleTap45
7th December 2009, 13:20
Even to search records on serial needs reasonable suspicion. The right case has yet to go to court but if it ever does a LOT of arrests and convictions will have to be overturned. On a Terry stop you can ONLY pat down for weapons and VISUALLY search the passenger compartment for weapons.

Weapons NOT in plain view (in the trunk) are NOT subject to search UNLESS the car has already been impounded as part of a LAWFUL ARREST and then only as a routine inventory search.

-Ray