CA - California´s Governor Signs Legislation To Help Track Ammunition Sales

[Dial 1911 for Help]

Sacramento, CA – Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger signed into law legislation that will help law enforcement officials track down and apprehend armed criminals and other prohibited persons. AB 962 by Assembly Member Kevin DeLeon (D-Los Angeles) had the support of law enforcement officials from across the state and was modeled after successful city ordinances, including the cities of Sacramento and Los Angeles. AB 962 was the Brady Campaign´s top priority bill in this year´s legislature.
The law requires maintenance of purchaser records by handgun ammunition vendors. Local law enforcement can use these records to find illegal guns.

"The purchase records will provide our police officers with yet another tool to track down and apprehend armed and dangerous criminals," said Paul Helmke, President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

The new law also requires the safe storage of handgun ammunition in stores and that all handgun ammunition sales be completed in face-to-face transactions. Sacramento and Los Angeles have had great success over the last few years with similar city ordinances. "Law enforcement officials in both cities have had great success in tracking down violent criminals who purchased ammunition in Sacramento and Los Angeles," said Ellen Boneparth, President of the California Brady Campaign Chapters. "Our California Brady Chapters were instrumental in urging cities to pass the local ordinances and getting strong support statewide for AB 962."

Link to entire article (http://www.californiachronicle.com/articles/view/123574)

Moron. Asshat. RINO.

[Old Fashioned]

The article reads as if the Brady Campaign wrote it. Figured this would pass although it looked as if the gov was going to cop out by taking no action and letting it become law automatically.

[jman527]

It's interesting that every LE officer i've spoken to thinks this bill is a joke. They tell me that it will accomplish nothing and cost a lot of tax payers dollars to enforce. So how is this going to help?

[Old Fashioned]

It's too bad that they don't sell ammo 5rds. at a time. Then shooters could go back and back and back and just totally overwhelm the system. This is just crazy, and I have serious doubts about the claims made in the article. There is another effort to get a law passed requiring everyone that enters a gun store to have a background check. Why not everyone within a 10 or 20 mile radius of any gun store?

[Chilo45]

It seems from what I have read that it may be overturned before it can take effect. By requiring face-to-face transactions of ammunition sales, California will violate a federal law or two concerning interstate commerce / the internet / etc.
Hope that if it comes to that the entire bill is revoked. Just more overhead expense for the sake of profits for the select few.
Personal responsibility and proper judicial punishment will fix 99.9% of our problems associated with firearms. But hardly anyone is willing to live by the codes that worked for so long - as personal responsibility doesn't seem to matter much any longer (it's not my fault).

What a joke.

[Old Fashioned]

You may well be right on the interstate commerce angle. It seems that the gun grabbers are now thinking that if they can't get all of the guns, then go after the ammunition and make the gun useless. However, if it gets to that point, it then becomes a constitutional issue because if you deny the ammunition, the gun is rendered useless and the citizens are denied the ability of self defense just the same as if the firearm was banned.

[Dial 1911 for Help]

Ooh, interdiction of interstate commerce! I hadn't thought of that angle. I like it. Finally the commerce clause gets a chance to do some good to atone for all the evil perpetrated in its name.

[pdangeruss]

Just wanted to chime in and share this one section from the law the Gov. just signed.
Everyone's been discussing the jist of the bill, but here is the actual definition of "ammunition" in the law just signed.

12317.
(c) For purposes of this section, “ammunition” shall include,
but not be limited to, any bullet, cartridge, magazine, clip, speed
loader, autoloader, or projectile capable of being fired from a
firearm with deadly consequence. “Ammunition” does not include
blanks.

It looks to me like reloading, as well as simply loaning your friend a spare magazine at the range to check for any spring/feeding issues, will now fall squarely within the intent of this law.

On a positive note (sarcasm intended) we will still be able to buy those fake 1911 military magazines in a monitored face to face transaction at the Cow Palace. Just won't be able to order any more Wilson's, Tripp or Checkmates.

[jman527]

So, who's up for a trip to reno? We all meet in sac., charter a bus, and use our money to support nevada. Heck, maybe we can talk cabelas into sponsoring the bus. They could have a bus that goes sac. to reno every sat. and sun. Charge $10 or $20 per person. I think it would pay off.Then not only does California loose the tax revinue from ammo, they'd loose a lot of other sales related to hunting and the outdoors. This state won't be able to fund programs like this one. Use the almighty dollar to drive our point.