Registration not for Criminals

[Old Fashioned]

Ran across something interesting on NRA-ILA today. In a Supreme Court case, Haynes v U.S. (1968), the Supreme Court ruled that felons do not have to register illegally possessed guns because the 5th Amendment protects them from self-incrimination. That would mean that if there were mandatory registration, the only people that would be in the data base would be law abiding citizens. Kind of knocks a hole in the argument for mandatory registration doesn't it? Doesn't this further legitimize the claim that left wing gun control fanatics are less about keeping guns from criminals and more about control over law abiding citizens? :D :D :D :D

[Rich-D]

Kind of insane isn't it!

Rich

[daveohno]

You should never underestimate the left with their gun grabbing agenda. They will stop at nothing, no matter how duplicitous, underhanded or just plain bold faced lie to get what they want. And you are right, they want felons today not to have any firearms and then a bit later, misdemeanants should not have access to firearms and then once all that has been accomplished they'll get the ones that are left.

[DoubleTap45]

Since the SCOTUS has ruled that gun registries do NOT apply to criminals and the gun grabbers CLAIM that all they want is a registry then WHO do you THINK these schemes are aimed at? Hint. Look to Canuckistan (formerly the Commonwealth of Canada). :scared:


-Ray

[d90king]

Ask the Canadian gun owners how they feel about registration... I think they have recently rounded up several hundred firearms via their registry.

It would be odd to offer the criminal greater protection than the law abiding... But I guess if we refused to register we would then be criminals and be offered the same protection. :butthead:

[daveohno]

I'm not sure about that, the prisons are full of liberals. The bleeding hearts just feel sorry for people that won't function well in society. They seem to have more compassion for them than they do people that follow the rules, somehow, they feel in their misguided hearts, that it's our fault these poor, misguided creatures are violent law breakers. Just throw common sense to the wind and allow people to do whatever they please without restraint and you are now in possession of a bleeding hearts mind. The only things missing are the hand wringing and the necessary government programs to combat a problem you caused with your "anything goes" mentality.

[Rick McC.]

I've been aware of this since it first came out. As far as I'm concerned; it makes any further "gun laws" fall within the same vein as noted above. They're meaningless as far as preventing or decreasing crime, but effective in further eroding the rights of law abiding citizens.

Rick

[daveohno]

We have gun bans in many large cities, so many people have no familiarity with firearms other than what they see on the news, so they conclude that these must be bad things because look at what people do with them. If these people were acquainted with firearms and their owners, they would conclude they are not really that bad and that they have a use and benefit for those that chose to responsibly own and use them. They might also conclude that they don't want one, which is fine, but the rest of us have a right to own them.

[DoubleTap45]

I watched one of those "30 Days" shows last year where they took an anti-gun activist and had her live with a guy and his son who LIVED the RKBA. She even had to work IN a gun shop for that time. She was shocked to see that even in a relatively "lax" state like Ohio (she was from MA I think) that you can't just walk into any gun shop or pawn shop and walk out with anything you want. They made her run the background check system and help at a gun show.

The best hoot was when she had to fire a shotgun at sporting clays. She broke down and cried like a baby. By the end of the 30 days she could handle a shotgun and shoot clays though. If THIS is what it takes on a one-to-one basis we're cooked. There aren't enough of us to turn around enough of them. :(

-Ray

[BluegrazzGuy]

There aren't enough of us to turn around enough of them. There's quite a few of us. Plus, it would spread geometrically. Sort of like a virus. :rolleyes:

[DoubleTap45]

I'd prefer exponentially by powers of 10!!!! :D

-Ray

[d90king]

I watched one of those "30 Days" shows last year where they took an anti-gun activist and had her live with a guy and his son who LIVED the RKBA. She even had to work IN a gun shop for that time. She was shocked to see that even in a relatively "lax" state like Ohio (she was from MA I think) that you can't just walk into any gun shop or pawn shop and walk out with anything you want. They made her run the background check system and help at a gun show.

The best hoot was when she had to fire a shotgun at sporting clays. She broke down and cried like a baby. By the end of the 30 days she could handle a shotgun and shoot clays though. If THIS is what it takes on a one-to-one basis we're cooked. There aren't enough of us to turn around enough of them. :(

-Ray
I think that this really shows the importance of introducing "newbies" to firearms. Once they are educated, they almost always change their tune about guns and the right to bear arms!