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Rich-D
28th April 2009, 15:45
Carter States: "A majority of Americans also support banning assault weapons. Many of us who hunt are dismayed by some of the more extreme policies of the National Rifle Association, the most prominent voice in opposition to a ban, and by the timidity of public officials who yield to the group’s unreasonable demands."
Full Text: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/opinion/27Carter.html?_r=4&ref=opinion
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With all due respect Mr Carter, the Polls, nor the people support your contention!

Rich

dogdollar
28th April 2009, 23:59
In a world ruled by steaks, chops, and roasts, history will surely remember Jimmy Carter as a french fry.
DD

Rich-D
29th April 2009, 00:18
DD, On that, I am not sure I agree! One can digest a french fry! ;) The man gave the Panama Canal away!

Rich

Frank
29th April 2009, 00:45
In a world ruled by steaks, chops, and roasts, history will surely remember Jimmy Carter as a french fry.I have trouble with him even as a side dish. To me he's more along the lines of a garnish -- a sprig of parsley maybe.

dogdollar
29th April 2009, 00:54
Okay, then.......mushroom?
That works on a lot of levels.
DD

Frank
29th April 2009, 01:18
Okay, DD. I can go with mushroom.

rjm713
29th April 2009, 04:59
Hi everyone---I personally didn't care for him as CinC (in the Navy at the time) and have not been impressed with what hes done since leaving office but to be fair I can't blame him for the Canal. If you recall Rich we had just finished (sort of) the Vietnam war and there was no stomach in the country to fight another. The folks in Panama had indicated that would happen if they did not achieve its return. I've been through the Canal and know how hard it would of been to defend--so many places where damage could happen. I'm not saying we couldn't win, we could, but the heart for that kind of battle wasn't there until Kuwait. I just wish he would stay retired and silent. Ralph

Rich-D
29th April 2009, 05:11
Mushrooms live in the dark, feeding on lots of manure!

Hence forth, let it be decreed, his full title is:

Jimmy "The Mushroom" Carter


Rich

Rich-D
29th April 2009, 06:32
but to be fair I can't blame him for the Canal. If you recall Rich we had just finished (sort of) the Vietnam war and there was no stomach in the country to fight another.

I respectfully disagree with your thoughts. Panama at best, had a very meager military presence on land. On the sea and in the air, they were absent any military power.

If you recall, Papa Bush ordered the invasion of Panama in December of 89, with the loss of 24 troops. As invasions are always more risky in loss of life and political ramifications than defending. I cannot agree that the Nation was not up to the task of defending the Canal, as we would have had to be attacked. When attacked, Americans have always rallied to the cause.

If the general consensus was that this country had no stomach for war. North Korea would have invaded South Korea, China would have invaded Taiwan, Iraq would have invaded Kuwait, Israel would be under attack, etc, etc. The domino effect would have had world wide complications.

However, we were at the time and remain the only super power in the world. The fact that the canal was given away was not based on the inability or lack of stomach to defend it. IMHO, It was based on a President who wanted to show the world that he was a nice guy.


Rich

d90king
29th April 2009, 08:54
I was going to post this a couple days ago. I just didn't have the stomach for it. He is one that really gets under my skin. The hypocrisy in the op ed from WSJ or the Times made me sick . It's like these are okay ...... But NOT these. "I used to hang...

Chilo45
29th April 2009, 15:41
Any statement that says "the majority of Americans" is to be questioned. The majority of Americans are (sorry to say it) dumb... or better stated - ignorant. That's why polling results are not to be taken with more than a grain of salt.

Most Americans couldn't describe what an assult rifle is (according to the government's lop-sided definition) - so if you don't know or can't explain it correctly your opinion is not worth as much as one that has correct knowledge behind it.

Carter needs to go back and keep building homes - which is one area that I am proud of his accomplishments to America and the world (Habitat for Humanity).

Joni Lynn
29th April 2009, 20:16
I always wondered how someone that apparently isn't that savvy could get to where he did.
I also wonder how he walks and chews gum at the same time.
Shame on you guys, comparing him to a mushroom is an insult to all mushrooms. (it's even an insult to what they grow in)

d90king
29th April 2009, 20:46
In a world ruled by steaks, chops, and roasts, history will surely remember Jimmy Carter as a french fry.
DD
That was really funny! :lh:

d90king
29th April 2009, 20:47
I have trouble with him even as a side dish. To me he's more along the lines of a garnish -- a sprig of parsley maybe.
Great follow up! :lm:

Rich-D
30th April 2009, 00:03
Humph! How did "Mushroom" get left out of the festivities! :rolleyes:

Personally, I think "Mushroom" topped them all! :p

Oh! I know why! d90King lives in the "Mushroom Capital of the World" and that's no joke!

Rich

d90king
30th April 2009, 09:14
Oh! I know why! d90King lives in the "Mushroom Capital of the World" and that's no joke!

Sadly they have moved most of the farms out towards Avon Grove/West Grove area.... The farmers found that their land was worth to much to stay......

kenhwind
1st May 2009, 19:17
I always wondered how someone that apparently isn't that savvy could get to where he did.
I also wonder how he walks and chews gum at the same time.
Shame on you guys, comparing him to a mushroom is an insult to all mushrooms. (it's even an insult to what they grow in)
I like that one J L, my brother keeps making the same comparisions, and I have to remind him of what he is insulting, and it ain't mushrooms.

Eddie
2nd May 2009, 18:03
I personally didn't care for him as CinC (in the Navy at the time)...

His attitude toward the military was, "Nothing is too good for the military," and that's what we got from him...nothing.

daveohno
5th May 2009, 21:48
I was a Carter supporter back then. I remember being very mad at his hated successor. By the end of the "Hated One's" term in office, I was changed for the better. It was refreshing to be proud of my country. That is not something that can happen if you're a liberal.

d90king
5th May 2009, 22:36
I was a Carter supporter back then. I remember being very mad at his hated successor. By the end of the "Hated One's" term in office, I was changed for the better. It was refreshing to be proud of my country. That is not something that can happen if you're a liberal.
He was the first president that I actually didn't like as a child. I remember the hostage situation when I was young and can remember thinking "why hasn't the president freed his people that he is supposed to protect"...

I still remember the joy I felt when the hostages were freed, yet I knew nothing about politics. I will never forget the patriotism that Reagan brought back to our country as a child.

daveohno
5th May 2009, 23:51
I have a suggestion for Mr. Carter. Shut up. You're retired, pretend you have some class, pretend you're Bush Sr. Jump out of an airplane on your birthday and the rest of the year, keep your views to yourself.

I'll never forgive this lout for what he said when Mr. Reagan died. He said basically that Mr. Reagan was a good campaigner and that he (Carter) lost his last job because of him. Wasn't that magnanimous? Talk about left handed compliments. He couldn't even be nice when Mr. Reagan had passed away. These leftists are snotty to you even in death. They have no manners.

Dial 1911 for Help
25th August 2009, 13:33
I have trouble with him even as a side dish. To me he's more along the lines of a garnish -- a sprig of parsley maybe.
Garnish is harmless. How about the dead fly in the salad, or perhaps when the Taco Bell guy is too lazy to use the restroom and you get feces in the bean burros? And yes that actually happened.

Pappy
26th August 2009, 13:47
Who's Jimmie Carter??????

daveohno
26th August 2009, 18:39
Who's Jimmie Carter??????
He was the guy in charge when interest rates, unemployment and inflation were all double digits. He was the guy in charge when the Shah was chased out of Iran and the Ayatollah Khomeni returned to Iran and took over the country. He was the guy in charge when our Embassy workers were taken hostage in Iran. He was the guy in charge when many of us became embarrassed that we were US Citizens because of his incpompetance. He was the guy in charge when the failed attempt to rescue embassy workers went sideways because they didn't plan on the sand causing trouble for the rescue helicopters. His legacy is one of utter failure, but the media won't beat him up too badly because he is one of them, he's a leftist. He was the guy in charge when the media decided that the job of US President was just too much for one man to do. It never occurred to them that the job was just too big for Carter. They then criticized President Reagan for sleeping all the time instead of running the country. But the yapping about the job being too big for one man ceased, because the country was being run pretty well after the Carter Presidency, even though President Reagan continued to takes naps in the afternoon.

Old Fashioned
27th August 2009, 23:09
Well, Mr. Carter has to be politically correct (after all he is a liberal) and spout the appropriate gun control nonsense. As for the rest of the country, since when does it matter to those people what the rest of the citizens in this country think? Now, the habitat for humanity thing is good but that came about after he left office. As for the Iranian hostage incident, Hugo Chavez, and a number of other problems, I am a firm believer that the fear of being hit by a pair of jump boots worn by a US paratrooper coming down to take care of business can do wonders for keeping things peaceful. Teddy Roosevelt had a saying that was and is very apropriate, "walk softly and carry a big stick".